The third firewall is that all the transactions going through governments' accounts and balances should be made known to the legislature. However, the current draft amendment doesn't say the government has to do so. This is very strange.

冯欣：那我们现在有几道防火墙呢？

Feng Xin: Then, how many firewalls do we have now?

王雍君：我们现在第一道防火墙名义上有，实质上无。第二道防火墙名义上有，实质上无。至于第三道防火墙，名义上也没有，实际上也没有，一直到现在。

Wang Yongjun: The first firewall only exists on paper. The second firewall only exists on paper.In terms of the third firewall, it has never even existed on paper.

在收到数十万的公众意见后，立法者们现在的进程如何？我们拨打了预算法立法者之一蔡巧萍的电话。

After receiving hundreds of thousands of comments from the public, what have lawmakers been up to? We called NPC Budget Law legislator Cai Qiaoping.

冯欣：收集上来的意见，大家最多的是反映什么问题？

Feng Xin: From all the comments collected, what are the most talked-about issues?

蔡巧萍：根据意见在我们人大常委会这边也是有分工的，主要是由法工委来做，我是预算工委的。我得到的消息还是各方面意见都比较多，可能加强人大监督或者是国库管理这一块比较多。

Cai Qiaoping: In fact, we have divisions in the NPC's Standing Committee. The Law Commission mainly deals with public opinions, and I belong to the Budget Commission. From what I have heard, there are all sorts of opinions. Enhancing the people's congresses' monitoring and the treasury's administration are most often talked about.

冯欣：现在《预算法》的修改进行到什么程度了？

Feng Xin: What's going on in the process of amending the law?

蔡巧萍：大概的程序就是根据意见，看哪些意见比较集中，研究之后再修改草案。因为常委会两个月开一次，八月份一次，十月份一次，十二月份一次，那就看哪一次的常委会再提起第三次审议。

Cai Qiaoping: A rough procedure is that we collect opinions, categorize and study them before amending the draft amendment. The Standing Committee's meeting is held every two months. There was one in August. One will be in October and one in December. We will see when we will bring it up to the Standing Committee for its third hearing.